Swiss for the first stage in two stage format
Currently, Swiss is available as single stage and as the final stage in two-stage format. However, in two-stage format, you cannot select Swiss as the first stage.
In many official tournaments, Swiss is the first stage and Single Elim is the second stage.
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Too bad this is not possible yet. Then this system would be exactly what I have been looking for for a number of years now .. Its 6 years since this was asked for, so I guess its just not gonna happend.
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This is long overdue. Swiss to single elimination with seeding is definitely the tournament structure par excellence when dealing with a large enough pool, but doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Is challonge no longer being supported?
Carlos Aponte commented
Is anyone looking at this?
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Todd McFarlin commented
How has this not been done yet? This is nearly every tournament structure for Esports
David Cornelius commented
We initially held off on adding this because our Swiss system is in need of a rewrite. However, time has clearly shown that the Swiss rewrite is having trouble getting to the top of our list, so we'll look to integrate the existing Swiss system into two stage.
In the meantime, please note that a 4-person double elimination group with *2* people advancing accomplishes nearly the same thing as 4-player Swiss. R1: 1v4, 2v3, R2 expected: 1v2 (1 advances), 3v4; R3 expected: 2v3 (2 advances). Swiss would be R1: 1v3, 2v4; R2 expected: 1v2, 3v4; R3 expected: 2v3, 1v4 (unnecessary), 1 & 2 advance.
Derec Morneault commented
This has been up for over 3 and half years...
Please add this Challonge
Yes please add this. We use it with Yugioh Duel Link
Please add this challonge
When this is implemented, I would like to see an option for the players that did not make it into the final stage to continue to verse each other in a Swiss format for additional rounds.
Seconding that TCG comment. This is a very common way to format large open tournaments for card games, e.g. Magic the Gathering, Game of Thrones LCG, Netrunner LCG, etc.
Just as the OP said: Swiss first stage, cut the top performers to a single elim playoffs.
I'd like to try this with Hearthstone.
We host tournaments that are a quick "Swiss" tournament, each team plays 2 times, then based on points, wins, loss, ties, etc. they are ranked for a single elimination tournament.
The key for us it needs to be limited to 2 games per team during the swiss round.
Any feedback on this one lately?
Totally Agreed. I do not understand why it is there for one stage and not the two stage. If you have many people in your tournament, round robin does not make sense and double elimination sometimes makes for a quick exit.
Would love to hear response from designer before we look for other sites that accommodates this feature?